I know. I was there in 1972.

The 'Face' on Mars with the pyramids was debunked by NASA when they s took another picture from a different angle and it looked fuzzy. But a new face popped up! It is more sharply defined. Seven large flying saucers descended to just above a crater wall and watched Apollo 11. They might have been from the future and wanted to see the historic moment. I have the feeling that not many people believe in the Apollo 17 Alien. The picture should pretty much prove it, but a computer game picked it up when I first put it on the internet. Having been taken from my original it lacked detail. It didn't have the little hairs and a blowup of the picture doesn't yield liquid around the contact lens that Grays have. The original picture has that detail and that is what I've shown in my articles. Below is the second face on Mars:

Hmmm...and what exactly does that have to do with invisibility? Just curious! ^_^

I really took the picture. I was, in fact, on Apollo 17. I know this sounds weird but nearly every Apollo Mission had at least one Astronaut that arrived at KSC sick with a bad cold or flu. They couldn't fly! If they upchucked in their helmets it would kill them. So, I was on Apollo 17. And, I TOOK THE PICTURE. That's how I knew the picture was there and I kept looking until I found it. I took it from an Internet NASA/Army web site. As such it was PUBLIC DOMAIN. That picture is real. The eye shows the LEM and the setting Earth. The Earth didn't completely set because it was dipping due to Moon oscillation.. And, we have Grays out West at Dulce Base, N.M. I have been there. Have you?

[Jacklav4321] Jack the destruction of entire worlds is already possible for the earthlings. Who are you kidding? Please research the word "religion." It is not wisdom or truth but rather religio a "sanction" or religare a "binding." Religion in its truest sense is a trap. Religion is a weapon. Religion can force men to worship not only an idol, or imaginary deity, but also other men. Religion is a means of control, decay and then final elimination.

[PuteusGravitas] Religion tells us how to have sex. This is important because it requires the elimination of those that don't do it right! The Iranians say women are animals. So, I suspect, some nukes are pointed at them! It all fun in the Matrix! Without Religion life would be dull. But Religion has to mature along with science/technology. The M-Men know that if food fights back you have to take it off the dinner table. Give that Soul a new body. And, of course, return the old corpse to the table for desert! So, yes, the Aliens can teach Humans quite a bit. And, most are very advanced. And, this is why I read your posts! I want to learn more.

[Jacklav4321] Jack, research the word religion. And stop with your nonsense. Sex is purely physical. You are not going to convert me, friend

[PuteusGravitas] Your Religion needs to improve too. And, by the way, every Being has a Religion whether or not they admit to it. Remember, Religion includes morals and ethics. If you are truly advanced then you are moving Souls around. So the problem is when and why and do what? That means a moral (religious) decision must be made. And, I think we both agree that the old simplistic Religions left a lot to be desired. And, a lot of what they did was . . . Control.

[Jacklav4321] Jack, research religion. Stop dodging the reality. There is no religion with me or the Plejaren. The opposite of religion is to know instead of believe. To believe is to take a so called higher authorities word, and just repeat it. To believe is to be stuck in an opinion. To know on the other hand is a process of continuous improvement through investigation, research, study, preponderance, meditation, etc. In other words, the opposite of sanctioned. There is no immortal soul. Soul is slang for solar plexus. Go look it up!!!

[PuteusGravitas] Do you believe what your science has proven? To believe is to know. Do some people believe without knowing? Yes, I'm sure it has happened because theoretically we don't absolutely know anything. We can never learn anything from deduction because all that is brought to light was contained in the premises. And, you can never be certain of your premises because they ultimately came from induction, which is probability based on observation. But modern science is far better than the big guy in the village saying he is God and everyone better obey or they will be beaten and killed.

[Jacklav4321] To 'be-lie-(ve) yourself. To lie to yourself. Go look it up! Anyone who lies to themselves is far from the truth, and hardly seeking improvement....

[Jacklav4321] [PuteusGravitas] Woah there, big guy! Please don't forget that Religion is taken by a few as a way to exert control on others. This POV took years to get to.

[PuteusGravitas] I humbly submit this revelant counterpoint: Per Urban Dictionary: Soul Currency to trade with the devil. The existence of the soul is heavily debated in the first place, and its definition varies greatly from party to party, though everyone believes that everyone else's definitions are wrong. Just say'in!

[12StringJamz] When you die you will go into sleep state. Then you awake without a body. Whatever you wish for at this point you will get. Be careful of what you wish for! Now, what is this sleeping thing in the beginning of death. Why, a Soul of course. What else could it be? And, this Soul contains every bit of information it ever contacted with: DNA, every Place, every Thing you ever saw or did. And, you will have a Coach: GOD. How do I know this? Been there, done that! . . . And so have you, but you don't remember it. You can even get your old body back fully clothed. But people are going to think it a little . . . weird! You may get mistreated as a body duplicate!

What a shame the good Col. didn't just transfer to the reserve component for 3 yrs 2 mos 22 days then, retire with full benefits. ;)

Well said, and the Past is pretty bad. But we are improving. The U.S. Constitution combined with Capitalism has catapulted Man into the Present and will continue to improve the Future. We have to deal with population by going 3 dimensional. We have to deal with Aliens by treating them in a Christian and proper diplomatic way, but be prepared--when necessary--to protect ourselves.

[Jacklav4321] Jack, Christianity is as bad as any other religion. The ETs, the Plejaren, see Christianity as a disease that is not only holding back the individual, but also the masses. The root of religion is to "fasten or bind" the individual to the past, therefore stalling all forward momentum of progress. You obviously do not understand what the word "religion" means. Until the human being on this planet begins to evolve his own opinions and understanding over time, instead of being stuck in an opinion, closed minded, he will continue to fail...

[PuteusGravitas] Religions based on Love are essentially accurate and truthful. they are the best to live and grow by. We are all particles of God and love is our intuitive recognition of this. It is how God wants life to grow and develop with respect to others and oneself.

[Jacklav4321] Your opinion is not in line with the universe, or advanced ETs. You think like a simple earthling. Love is an equalization of the positive and the negative....

[PuteusGravitas] My opinion comes straight from God. When we watch movies we are playing God. While high adventure and even worse is exciting movies without love are . . . blah! Those old WWII movies always had love affairs. God is an infinity of love and learning to love is where all, both individuals and Countries, gravitate.

[PuteusGravitas] I have to pretty much concur with most of what you posted. However, I humbly suggest a different POV that's revelant; Spiritually speaking, there are two types of "resonances" people gravitate to. There are the ones who are "service to others" oriented (or orientated, depending on region grown up) then there are those who are "service to self" oriented. These orientated behaviors behave differently when dealing with the accelerated, concentrated positive energy the planet, the solar system, the universe, and multiverses if you take to that, is traveling in. This affects EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE. The short story from this point is - the "service to self" people thrive in this energy while "service to self" people get worse as they literally, can't deal with all the positive energy they're surrounded by so, they do everything they can to bring everyone and everything down to their level as, there are more of them than there are of us ("service to others" oriented) and, they run - if they don't own - EVERY TYPE of business under the Sun.

[12StringJamz] The human being, in order to be complete, needs to service the inside as well as the outside. The problem with earthlings is that they are skewed toward one polarity. This is religion and politics, either team red or team blue, holding back man and destroying him...

[PuteusGravitas] Well, if we elevate ourselves--you and I--to onlookers instead of participants then Humans are expanding. There's nothing wrong with this. In an infinity they would absorb everything that is and turn it into their flesh and end up jam packed in the Universe's barrel! But don't worry. Infinity will never happen! It can't happen. Infinity is a process. Marxists say the end justifies the means. But there is no end! They say everything is atoms, but now we know better. In math the infinity symbol is used and calculated. This is an artificial end, never to exist in Reality. If it did everything would be gray with some midrange tone playing in our ears. Nobody wants that! With the Universe composed of at least a trillion Galaxies I don't think you, or any Alien Country, needs to worry about Mankind using up all of the Universe's resources! It won't happen!

[Jacklav4321] Jack, you are not understanding the logic. It is not about the amount of resources that exist in the universe, nor is it about abundant room. It is the number of humans who can live in any given ecosystem without throwing off the system or crashing it. Can you understand this Jack? Any civilization is limited by technology in reaching endless resources. Certainly once man learns how to live in balance with Earth, he can then take that model into space. Space stations too are an ecosystem. Humans could not endlessly increase their population on a space station. So the point Jack is that humans cannot act like monsters destroying one planet after another, killing countless living creatures and entire planets. I can promise you Jack, once man escapes the solar system and becomes interstellar, unless he has become universal and practices universal love, he will meet the aliens and be destroyed.

[PuteusGravitas] Humans are just now learning to move to other Worlds. So, up to now population increase met chopping down trees and killing animals. And, since Humans fight Humans there have been wars, death, and destruction. This is how we all begin. Since Humans haven't learned to rearrange atoms into food they still eat plants and animals. As do, I might add, quite a few Alien Societies. Now, as time goes on I believe--with advancing science--Humans will behave much better. Since Humans don't eat live creatures they don't embellish their meals with sadism as do certain Aliens. You know, watching to see if their food struggles. Lobsters are boiled alive to avoid them generating toxins, but that is the exception, not the rule. I have met and lived with Aliens. The Ebens didn't let me remember eating. The S-Men ate jello cubes of their feces. So they conked me out when they forced me to eat. The M-Men eat live creatures, snakes, mammals, and the like, but I didn't see any obvious attempt at torture. And, yes, they knocked me unconscious and tried to eat me. But their religion forced them to wake me up to see if I accepted their . . . domination. When this happened I punched the M that was devouring my stomach in the mouth (actually a small elephant like trunk) and shocked all of them at the dinner table. Their religion dictated that they couldn't eat a creature that fought back so they cloned a new me. It was a perfect clone by the way, a testament to their science/technology. They then accepted me as one of them and I went to their Church. They worshipped extreme high tech physics and the progression of Souls within space/time. I believe they had electronic ability to move Souls around but all they showed me was a round table that would rotate and stop at high speed to move my Soul into the new body. Since I wouldn't, and can't eat live creatures--a snake almost got me in the eye--they gave me a stomach implant and feed me big black diamond shaped pills. Later I was transferred to a Nordic Ship for return to Earth. They fed me what looked like a tube of toothpaste filled with what tasted like potato and beef. Much better than the black pills! Also, once with the S-Men on Mars I was offered what looked like green algae but turned it down. It looked a little icky. At least they didn't stick a pike in my foot like the tiny humans on Mars did when I accidently stepped on one of their tunnels. I was warned to be careful by the S-Men because those tiny Humans have nuclear weapons! So, now you know that I know a little about Aliens. I love them all. But Earth Humans aren't really that much different from the Aliens.

[Jacklav4321] Again Jack, you know nothing about ETs. And, my argument is going over your head. It is not about poor animals going through pain, or chopping down trees. It is not about a few trees! It is not about a few animals, you nincompoop! It is about the destruction of the planet! What are you blind Jack? Your foolish religion must allow you to believe that the climate in just dandy, and a bunch of animal species here and there don't matter. Not only is this immoral to destroy living ecosystems, habitats, oceans, forests, reefs, but illogical if one desires to survive. Can you live on a DEAD ROCK Jack?

[PuteusGravitas] If you are a well educated Alien, then you know that your Soul have been around forever and has forever ahead of it. What us Humans are doing is natural at our stage of development. With increasing education and research we will improve our interface with Nature. What you lack, however, is true Religion. There's more to this World than atoms and ecology. And, Consciousness plays a very important role.

[Jacklav4321] Jack, religion is a disease or a weapon depending upon which side of it you are on. No serious scientist takes on religion. ETs in our universe are generally not religious or not as religious as the earthlings. The Plejaren and Billy Meier, which is the only ET intervention on this planet currently with few exceptions, mission is to help Earth humans away from religion and instead toward logic and reason. This is why you ignore Billy Meier because it goes against your religion.

[PuteusGravitas] I haven't ignored Billy Meier. But you are mistaken about ET intervention. There has been quite a bit. I have met Reptiles, including Dracs, Nordics, M-Men, S-Men, Ebens, Giant Amoebas, Giant Snakes with Human looking teeth, T-Rex's, Plesiosaurus, Blue Avians, Clockers, giant Frogs, several different types of Grays, just to name a few! They all like me for some reason!

[Jacklav4321] Jack, I know for a fact that all those so called alien races that you mentioned are part of mainstream ufology, and thus a mind control to fool the people. Certainly advanced beings can look reptiles, amphibians, insects, plants, etc., but they are not yet interacting with earthlings. If you encountered one of these so called aliens during your missions, you were either lied to, fooled, or you yourself are not telling the truth.

[PuteusGravitas] Most come and visit me, for some reason. The Clocker knew that I would remember his visit as dream/imagination so he put his fingerprints on a dusty shelf. When the memory came to me I checked the shelf and his fingerprints were there! I liked the Clocker. I love all of God's Creatures--even the Plejarens.

[Jacklav4321] Maybe my friend you are just someone's "crazy uncle?" :)