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- @UPARSSteve added a new articleA little Sheryl Crow to Lift Your Spirits - Maybe Angels LiveThis song always gets me going, for some strange reason. Maybe for you as well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOkvTJUVhF08 0 2 0
- @UPARSSteve added a new articleDrone Captures Stunning UFO Footage in UtahHave you guys already seen this? A friend of mine sent me a link to the website Educating Humanity I looked at it, and I think it's legit. You can see it direct on YouTube here.29 0 12 1
- @CydoniaQuestThat YouTube link goes to another video when I try it. This should be the proper link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE-Yrv1-chI
BobThat YouTube link goes to another video when I try it. This should be the proper link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE-Yrv1-chI Bob :) - @writerguyPersonally,I think this is one of those rare sightings where it's impossible to claim rationally that it's not legit. Thanks Steve.Personally,I think this is one of those rare sightings where it's impossible to claim rationally that it's not legit. Thanks Steve. :pray:
- @AiredReally good capture. Kinda looks like a shuttle or bus type craft. In the future I envision this as the family car. Thank you for sharing.Really good capture. Kinda looks like a shuttle or bus type craft. In the future I envision this as the family car. Thank you for sharing.1 Replies
- @writerguyOr the car I wish I had when I was 18.Or the car I wish I had when I was 18. :)
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"UFO truther Bob Lazar & fil..." is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Ora Media.Video unavailable "UFO truther Bob Lazar & fil..." is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Ora Media. - @MihaelaHi Steve. Unfortunately at this time (25th of January ) the video is no longer available. It was deleted by youtube is not u is the fact that we r tired of all the lies and poisoning of all aspects and at all levels of our lives. There r aspect to which we r completely powerless, like the vaccination of our children - at least in my country we r forced to do so by the law and also if we don't do it the child is not received in the education system. Full of @&×£÷¥ but still an education that a child needs cuz this is the world we live in. hope u r not getting opet. As I told is just i'm so tired of waiting (a do a tiny tiny part in order to change the system but till is over feels like an eternity.Hi Steve. Unfortunately at this time (25th of January ) the video is no longer available. It was deleted by youtube :( :angry: is not u is the fact that we r tired of all the lies and poisoning of all aspects and at all levels of our lives. There r aspect to which we r completely powerless, like the vaccination of our children - at least in my country we r forced to do so by the law and also if we don't do it the child is not received in the education system. Full of @&×£÷¥ but still an education that a child needs cuz this is the world we live in. :( hope u r not getting opet. As I told is just i'm so tired of waiting (a do a tiny tiny part in order to change the system but till is over feels like an eternity.
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- @UPARSSteve added a new articleAre Massive Pole Shifts cyclic on this planet?Michael Salla just published an article about pole shifting on this planet. In the article, he highlights a book published in 1963 entitled The Adam and Eve Story, by Chan Thomas. The book was classified by the CIA a couple years later and pulled out of public circulation. What information could have been contained in those pages to warrant such a grand scale censorship? A sanitized...27 0 28 0
- @DeJordan_BunkerGeez...there's so much nonsense being written about this "Adam and Eve" book and its presence on the CIA website, and as far as I can tell nobody online has managed to coherently explain it.
Including Michael Salla in the article cited here. No surprise there. Salla makes his living writing conspiratainment nonsense.
So, I will explain it, and it's an OnStellar exclusive.
The CIA apparently classified THIS PARTICULAR COPY of this book, probably because it somehow fell into CIA hands in the course of an operation and had handwritten annotations referencing sensitive things or people. There's a broad range of ways it might have been acquired and it was simply retained as a library reference piece.
You can see some remaining annotations in the book if you download it:
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP79B00752A000300070001-8.pdf
Some annotations were probably removed...sanitized.
You can also see pages from TIME magazine that were probably tucked into the book, also with handwritten annotations. Who knows what other non-book paperwork was originally in the book and also removed? Sanitized.
Where is the text of this book "heavily redacted"? -- nowhere.
Think about it. It is ridiculous to imagine that the CIA classified THE CONTENT of this book "to keep it secret" because IT'S JUST ONE COPY OF THE BOOK.
This book has been continuously available through a number of editions at many libraries across the country. Here is its entry in WorldCat:
https://www.worldcat.org/title/adam-and-eve-story/oclc/31066333/editions?editionsView=true&referer=br
Oh, one more thing. Whoever made a popular video about this that is currently making the rounds says that the author's name, "Chan Thomas," is a fake name. This is not true, and obviously calls into question the competence of the person who made the video.
Chan Thomas was a geologist with fringe ideas about cataclysms. He also did ESP. As a matter of fact, he appeared on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson.
Here's a show insider's account of his appearance on that show:
https://tinyurl.com/yct6jxgf
Here's a long article about him by someone who knew him:
https://tinyurl.com/yc9rw2kr
The best reason I found for why CIA would have been interested in Chan Thomas:
"In 1966 Dr Robert M Wood was working for the McDonnell Douglas aviation company. His boss Raymond W Hallett was scheduled to provide the USAF with a response to the question of how to get to Earth orbit and return. Wood suggested looking at how UFOs did it.
Wood was later asked by senior management about how to generate new business. He voiced the opinion that UFOs had "...figured out some sort of gravity control...so the ONLY question in my mind is whether we are going to figure it out how they work before or after Lockheed!"
Management approved establishing a small project "Advanced Projects." Wood hired Chan Thomas, "...because he was a psychic who claimed to be in contact with ETs sometimes."
This from an October 2008 issue of the MUFON Journal:
https://tinyurl.com/y8pg974s
I'd say that's reason enough for CIA to keep a book written by Chan Thomas in their files or library.Geez...there's so much nonsense being written about this "Adam and Eve" book and its presence on the CIA website, and as far as I can tell nobody online has managed to coherently explain it. Including Michael Salla in the article cited here. No surprise there. Salla makes his living writing conspiratainment nonsense. So, I will explain it, and it's an OnStellar exclusive. The CIA apparently classified THIS PARTICULAR COPY of this book, probably because it somehow fell into CIA hands in the course of an operation and had handwritten annotations referencing sensitive things or people. There's a broad range of ways it might have been acquired and it was simply retained as a library reference piece. You can see some remaining annotations in the book if you download it: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP79B00752A000300070001-8.pdf Some annotations were probably removed...sanitized. You can also see pages from TIME magazine that were probably tucked into the book, also with handwritten annotations. Who knows what other non-book paperwork was originally in the book and also removed? Sanitized. Where is the text of this book "heavily redacted"? -- nowhere. Think about it. It is ridiculous to imagine that the CIA classified THE CONTENT of this book "to keep it secret" because IT'S JUST ONE COPY OF THE BOOK. This book has been continuously available through a number of editions at many libraries across the country. Here is its entry in WorldCat: https://www.worldcat.org/title/adam-and-eve-story/oclc/31066333/editions?editionsView=true&referer=br Oh, one more thing. Whoever made a popular video about this that is currently making the rounds says that the author's name, "Chan Thomas," is a fake name. This is not true, and obviously calls into question the competence of the person who made the video. Chan Thomas was a geologist with fringe ideas about cataclysms. He also did ESP. As a matter of fact, he appeared on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. Here's a show insider's account of his appearance on that show: https://tinyurl.com/yct6jxgf Here's a long article about him by someone who knew him: https://tinyurl.com/yc9rw2kr The best reason I found for why CIA would have been interested in Chan Thomas: "In 1966 Dr Robert M Wood was working for the McDonnell Douglas aviation company. His boss Raymond W Hallett was scheduled to provide the USAF with a response to the question of how to get to Earth orbit and return. Wood suggested looking at how UFOs did it. Wood was later asked by senior management about how to generate new business. He voiced the opinion that UFOs had "...figured out some sort of gravity control...so the ONLY question in my mind is whether we are going to figure it out how they work before or after Lockheed!" Management approved establishing a small project "Advanced Projects." Wood hired Chan Thomas, "...because he was a psychic who claimed to be in contact with ETs sometimes." This from an October 2008 issue of the MUFON Journal: https://tinyurl.com/y8pg974s I'd say that's reason enough for CIA to keep a book written by Chan Thomas in their files or library. - @Jonathan_C_HallWhy do you hide anonymously Archie? You may be to young to get the reference.
I find your speculation interesting. When you find the truth let us know. I won’t hold my breath. Right now we’re just reading your posts as some anonymous dude or duddete. Who are you? Bueller? Bueller? You like to fish? Do you paint? Do you have kids? What is your phollosophy?
Exclusive? Dude without a personality behind your electric mask I can not place trust in you. You “probably” are a bleeding heart liberal is my guess.Why do you hide anonymously Archie? You may be to young to get the reference. I find your speculation interesting. When you find the truth let us know. I won’t hold my breath. Right now we’re just reading your posts as some anonymous dude or duddete. Who are you? Bueller? Bueller? You like to fish? Do you paint? Do you have kids? What is your phollosophy? Exclusive? Dude without a personality behind your electric mask I can not place trust in you. You “probably” are a bleeding heart liberal is my guess.5 Replies- @DeJordan_BunkerYou don't need to "place trust in me." -- that's the problem with so many peoples' mindset today; need a known authority (or someone's political party affiliation) to tell them something is true, and don't actually trust reasoning.
You cannot realize on your own that it is ridiculous to think that CIA *could* keep this book's content classified and secret by taking ONE COPY of it, stamping it "Classified" and sticking it in a vault? That's the premise...and it's ridiculous on its face.You don't need to "place trust in me." -- that's the problem with so many peoples' mindset today; need a known authority (or someone's political party affiliation) to tell them something is true, and don't actually trust reasoning. You cannot realize on your own that it is ridiculous to think that CIA *could* keep this book's content classified and secret by taking ONE COPY of it, stamping it "Classified" and sticking it in a vault? That's the premise...and it's ridiculous on its face. - @LynneThis "Jordan_Bunker" is a shill and seems to have something negative to say about almost every post! He's trolled, not only my posts but my comments! I advise you not to give this person or thing another thought. He, she or it is probably being paid to "debunk" everyone on here!This "Jordan_Bunker" is a shill and seems to have something negative to say about almost every post! He's trolled, not only my posts but my comments! I advise you not to give this person or thing another thought. He, she or it is probably being paid to "debunk" everyone on here! (< (< (<
- @Jonathan_C_Hall@DeJordan_Bunker The first paragraph I agree with to a degree. At least you admit you are unsure as to wether the CIA had it classified for the reasons you propose. That is a start to a conversation and shows humility.[DeJordan_Bunker] The first paragraph I agree with to a degree. At least you admit you are unsure as to wether the CIA had it classified for the reasons you propose. That is a start to a conversation and shows humility.
- @writerguyWhich leads me to ask why did the CIA release this "sanitized copy", having censored it completely for years? What's within it that they don't want us to know? Thanks Steve.Which leads me to ask why did the CIA release this "sanitized copy", having censored it completely for years? What's within it that they don't want us to know? Thanks Steve. :pray:3 Replies
- @ricardosantosIndeed....Indeed....
- @DeJordan_BunkerMichael Salla exposes himself as a pseudoscholar with this article. How else to explain that he embraces the truly stupid proposition that CIA *could* keep this book's content secret and suppressed by taking *one* copy of it, stamping it "classified" and sticking it in a vault?
The great Michael Salla, super savvy expert of how government functions, *really* thinks this is how the world works?
Of course he doesn't. It's a case of "One lies, the other swears to it."
Salla's article is really just a puff-piece review of Ben Davidson's Earth Catastrophe Cycle video series, the first of which is about Chan Thomas' Adam and Eve book. Davidson's a pseudoscholar, too.
He thinks "Chan Thomas" is a fake name. False.
He thinks CIA can magically suppress a book by classifying one copy of it. Ridiculous.
He refers to the book as "a classified report" making it sound like it was CIA generated. It was not. It was a book that was published by a non-government publishing house.
He claims "the scientists didn't know about the classified work" Nonsense. The book was NEVER unavailable to the public.
He claims "the classified document is clearly missing pages. Page 8 is nowhere to be found." Page 8 was a blank page on the backside of the chapter title page, page 7. Very shoddy scholarship, especially considering that he goes on to suggest that other pages are missing. NOTHING IS MISSING.
He ludicrously explains away the fact that there are no redaction bars because "we're not supposed to know where text is missing." Of course, he can't be bothered to check the CIA version he says is altered against the readily available copies of the same book found in libraries around the country. Why not? Because it undermines the central point of the video: NOTHING WAS ALTERED.
He thinks the "declassified sanitized" version has book text that has been altered by CIA, stating "The book has now been released, having been heavily "sanitized" down to only 57 pages." Wrong. The 1965 edition always had that many pages -- nothing was deleted.
Of course, Salla's puff-piece follows suit: "the fact that the CIA chose to release a declassified sanitized version in 2013 is very significant." How? The version they released matches what's always been available to the public since the book first came out.
Remember...conspiratainment is a magic trick. Here, these guys are playing fast and loose with the words "classified" and "sanitized" and hoping you won't notice. This copy of the book wasn't classified because of its content but because this particular copy had marginal inscriptions and inserted paper that was sensitive. It was these things that were "sanitized" -- not the text of the book.
Heck, if you download the CIA copy of the book, you can see that the handwritten inscription on the cover has been obscured: "For Art L. From: __________" It's stuff like this that was sanitized.
You need to become a more savvy consumer of conspiracy-themed material.
These heroes of yours, Salla and Davidson, are unreliable sources of accurate information. They are only in it for the money they can make from non-experts who will unwittingly take them at their word.Michael Salla exposes himself as a pseudoscholar with this article. How else to explain that he embraces the truly stupid proposition that CIA *could* keep this book's content secret and suppressed by taking *one* copy of it, stamping it "classified" and sticking it in a vault? The great Michael Salla, super savvy expert of how government functions, *really* thinks this is how the world works? Of course he doesn't. It's a case of "One lies, the other swears to it." Salla's article is really just a puff-piece review of Ben Davidson's Earth Catastrophe Cycle video series, the first of which is about Chan Thomas' Adam and Eve book. Davidson's a pseudoscholar, too. He thinks "Chan Thomas" is a fake name. False. He thinks CIA can magically suppress a book by classifying one copy of it. Ridiculous. He refers to the book as "a classified report" making it sound like it was CIA generated. It was not. It was a book that was published by a non-government publishing house. He claims "the scientists didn't know about the classified work" Nonsense. The book was NEVER unavailable to the public. He claims "the classified document is clearly missing pages. Page 8 is nowhere to be found." Page 8 was a blank page on the backside of the chapter title page, page 7. Very shoddy scholarship, especially considering that he goes on to suggest that other pages are missing. NOTHING IS MISSING. He ludicrously explains away the fact that there are no redaction bars because "we're not supposed to know where text is missing." Of course, he can't be bothered to check the CIA version he says is altered against the readily available copies of the same book found in libraries around the country. Why not? Because it undermines the central point of the video: NOTHING WAS ALTERED. He thinks the "declassified sanitized" version has book text that has been altered by CIA, stating "The book has now been released, having been heavily "sanitized" down to only 57 pages." Wrong. The 1965 edition always had that many pages -- nothing was deleted. Of course, Salla's puff-piece follows suit: "the fact that the CIA chose to release a declassified sanitized version in 2013 is very significant." How? The version they released matches what's always been available to the public since the book first came out. Remember...conspiratainment is a magic trick. Here, these guys are playing fast and loose with the words "classified" and "sanitized" and hoping you won't notice. This copy of the book wasn't classified because of its content but because this particular copy had marginal inscriptions and inserted paper that was sensitive. It was these things that were "sanitized" -- not the text of the book. Heck, if you download the CIA copy of the book, you can see that the handwritten inscription on the cover has been obscured: "For Art L. From: __________" It's stuff like this that was sanitized. You need to become a more savvy consumer of conspiracy-themed material. These heroes of yours, Salla and Davidson, are unreliable sources of accurate information. They are only in it for the money they can make from non-experts who will unwittingly take them at their word. - @Han_Wertbaum@DeJordan_Bunker wow - dr salla is a pseudoscholar. thx. tell me something i don't know.
so, where is the real "scholars" publicly discussing topics like covert space programms? hmmm?
that's why i listen to guys like dr salla and buy their books: 'main-stream' historians are fake - been there , done that, seen them myself.
you comments imply accususations versus dr salla for making a living out of his work.
every main stream 'scholar' is paid BY THE STATE - so you want to tell me they are not biased?
again, i like the links and the research in your posts but the harrasement and the negativity! please!
stop it![DeJordan_Bunker] wow - dr salla is a pseudoscholar. thx. tell me something i don't know. so, where is the real "scholars" publicly discussing topics like covert space programms? hmmm? that's why i listen to guys like dr salla and buy their books: 'main-stream' historians are fake - been there , done that, seen them myself. you comments imply accususations versus dr salla for making a living out of his work. every main stream 'scholar' is paid BY THE STATE - so you want to tell me they are not biased? again, i like the links and the research in your posts but the harrasement and the negativity! please! stop it!
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- @S.AdamsThanks for posting Steve, I have been following this for some time now, there is some great data here and I have been posting Bens videos here at Onstellar and commenting on how I felt like this sounded like a solar flash, so with Dr. Salla recent articles I was excited to see he was connecting the same dots as me. I look forward to his 3 part and according to Ben this series of videos is expected to hit 20, so lots more to come.Thanks for posting Steve, I have been following this for some time now, there is some great data here and I have been posting Bens videos here at Onstellar and commenting on how I felt like this sounded like a solar flash, so with Dr. Salla recent articles I was excited to see he was connecting the same dots as me. I look forward to his 3 part and according to Ben this series of videos is expected to hit 20, so lots more to come.5 Replies
- @DeJordan_BunkerMichael Salla exposes himself as a pseudoscholar with this article. How else to explain that he embraces the truly stupid proposition that CIA *could* keep this book's content secret and suppressed by taking *one* copy of it, stamping it "classified" and sticking it in a vault?
The great Michael Salla, super savvy expert of how government functions, *really* thinks this is how the world works?
Of course he doesn't. It's a case of "One lies, the other swears to it."
Salla's article is really just a puff-piece review of Ben Davidson's Earth Catastrophe Cycle video series, the first of which is about Chan Thomas' Adam and Eve book. Davidson's a pseudoscholar, too.
He thinks "Chan Thomas" is a fake name. False.
He thinks CIA can magically suppress a book by classifying one copy of it. Ridiculous.
He refers to the book as "a classified report" making it sound like it was CIA generated. It was not. It was a book that was published by a non-government publishing house.
He claims "the scientists didn't know about the classified work" Nonsense. The book was NEVER unavailable to the public.
He claims "the classified document is clearly missing pages. Page 8 is nowhere to be found." Page 8 was a blank page on the backside of the chapter title page, page 7. Very shoddy scholarship, especially considering that he goes on to suggest that other pages are missing. NOTHING IS MISSING.
He ludicrously explains away the fact that there are no redaction bars because "we're not supposed to know where text is missing." Of course, he can't be bothered to check the CIA version he says is altered against the readily available copies of the same book found in libraries around the country. Why not? Because it undermines the central point of the video: NOTHING WAS ALTERED.
He thinks the "declassified sanitized" version has book text that has been altered by CIA, stating "The book has now been released, having been heavily "sanitized" down to only 57 pages." Wrong. The 1965 edition always had that many pages -- nothing was deleted.
Of course, Salla's puff-piece follows suit: "the fact that the CIA chose to release a declassified sanitized version in 2013 is very significant." How? The version they released matches what's always been available to the public since the book first came out.
Remember...conspiratainment is a magic trick. Here, these guys are playing fast and loose with the words "classified" and "sanitized" and hoping you won't notice. This copy of the book wasn't classified because of its content but because this particular copy had marginal inscriptions and inserted paper that was sensitive. It was these things that were "sanitized" -- not the text of the book.
Heck, if you download the CIA copy of the book, you can see that the handwritten inscription on the cover has been obscured: "For Art L. From: __________" It's stuff like this that was sanitized.
You need to become a more savvy consumer of conspiracy-themed material.
These heroes of yours, Salla and Davidson, are unreliable sources of accurate information. They are only in it for the money they can make from non-experts who will unwittingly take them at their word.Michael Salla exposes himself as a pseudoscholar with this article. How else to explain that he embraces the truly stupid proposition that CIA *could* keep this book's content secret and suppressed by taking *one* copy of it, stamping it "classified" and sticking it in a vault? The great Michael Salla, super savvy expert of how government functions, *really* thinks this is how the world works? Of course he doesn't. It's a case of "One lies, the other swears to it." Salla's article is really just a puff-piece review of Ben Davidson's Earth Catastrophe Cycle video series, the first of which is about Chan Thomas' Adam and Eve book. Davidson's a pseudoscholar, too. He thinks "Chan Thomas" is a fake name. False. He thinks CIA can magically suppress a book by classifying one copy of it. Ridiculous. He refers to the book as "a classified report" making it sound like it was CIA generated. It was not. It was a book that was published by a non-government publishing house. He claims "the scientists didn't know about the classified work" Nonsense. The book was NEVER unavailable to the public. He claims "the classified document is clearly missing pages. Page 8 is nowhere to be found." Page 8 was a blank page on the backside of the chapter title page, page 7. Very shoddy scholarship, especially considering that he goes on to suggest that other pages are missing. NOTHING IS MISSING. He ludicrously explains away the fact that there are no redaction bars because "we're not supposed to know where text is missing." Of course, he can't be bothered to check the CIA version he says is altered against the readily available copies of the same book found in libraries around the country. Why not? Because it undermines the central point of the video: NOTHING WAS ALTERED. He thinks the "declassified sanitized" version has book text that has been altered by CIA, stating "The book has now been released, having been heavily "sanitized" down to only 57 pages." Wrong. The 1965 edition always had that many pages -- nothing was deleted. Of course, Salla's puff-piece follows suit: "the fact that the CIA chose to release a declassified sanitized version in 2013 is very significant." How? The version they released matches what's always been available to the public since the book first came out. Remember...conspiratainment is a magic trick. Here, these guys are playing fast and loose with the words "classified" and "sanitized" and hoping you won't notice. This copy of the book wasn't classified because of its content but because this particular copy had marginal inscriptions and inserted paper that was sensitive. It was these things that were "sanitized" -- not the text of the book. Heck, if you download the CIA copy of the book, you can see that the handwritten inscription on the cover has been obscured: "For Art L. From: __________" It's stuff like this that was sanitized. You need to become a more savvy consumer of conspiracy-themed material. These heroes of yours, Salla and Davidson, are unreliable sources of accurate information. They are only in it for the money they can make from non-experts who will unwittingly take them at their word. - @S.Adams@DeJordan_Bunker you should look at other data in the videos beside being hung up on one video[DeJordan_Bunker] you should look at other data in the videos beside being hung up on one video
- @S.Adams@DeJordan_Bunker also it seems that you are here at Onstellar to argue with folks since you don't seem to believe in UFO, or alternative physics theories, or conspiracies, yet you are on a forum for these very topics, and all while remaining anonymous, sounds very much like classic troll to me, but welcome, whoever you are[DeJordan_Bunker] also it seems that you are here at Onstellar to argue with folks since you don't seem to believe in UFO, or alternative physics theories, or conspiracies, yet you are on a forum for these very topics, and all while remaining anonymous, sounds very much like classic troll to me, but welcome, whoever you are
- @DeJordan_Bunker@S.Adams I just pointed out to you how Davidson repeatedly makes false claims in the Adam & Eve video, and your response is that I ought to check out his other videos? Why do you trust an obviously unreliable source of information and analysis?[S.Adams] I just pointed out to you how Davidson repeatedly makes false claims in the Adam & Eve video, and your response is that I ought to check out his other videos? Why do you trust an obviously unreliable source of information and analysis?
- @DeJordan_Bunker@S.Adams The scientific method requires that hypotheses be relentlessly tested by new pertinent information and insights. It's the primary way we get to truth. What you call arguing, I call the healthy give-and-take inherent in the process. What does "belief" have to do with it? A classic troll's goal is to provoke. My goal is to advance the ball with insights and information. If I hadn't pointed out how Davidson and Salla's misleading presentations were hopelessly flawed, you would have been totally unaware that they were.[S.Adams] The scientific method requires that hypotheses be relentlessly tested by new pertinent information and insights. It's the primary way we get to truth. What you call arguing, I call the healthy give-and-take inherent in the process. What does "belief" have to do with it? A classic troll's goal is to provoke. My goal is to advance the ball with insights and information. If I hadn't pointed out how Davidson and Salla's misleading presentations were hopelessly flawed, you would have been totally unaware that they were.
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- @Jonathan_C_HallI first discovered this on a post by Rex Bear of Leak Project of whom I love. He does not care what anyone thinks. I love people like that no false pretense. Archie in that regard you rock my brother. And you are my brother. I do not know much about the document/story but find it very interesting. Not the CIA part but the content of the book.
You see the same prophesy many places. Scientists are telling us as much to the chagrin of the bleeding heart liberals we are going into a grand solar minimum. If you look further we may be entering the next ice age they postulate. The Theosophists and Buddhists postulate we are at the end of a yuga or age.
Society has broken down into the age of iron the last age before the earth is turned over like a farmer tilling a field.
And before anyone accuses me of fear porn save it. We are discussing the book which speaks of the very things as I laid out. We do not die. Possibly a second death but that is on the owner of the meat suit.
Thanks for the post.
Hey Archie what do you think about the contents of the book in light of all that is going on? Care to try out what it feels like to have a regular conversation? Come on bro you have to be in there somewhere. Hugs and my hand is still there. No bull excrement I mean it.! I met some of my best friends in school after we beat each other up lol. Ahh youth so long ago.
Ready to trade my meat suit in Archie. How about you? Do you think there is a God? Do you pray? If not do you meditate or have any spirituality? Come on bros. lighten up and introduce yourself. You smoke weed Archie or drink the poison man makes? Or are you a tee totaler a phrase you may not be familiar with if your just a kid. Which for me is 30 and under. Hey it’s all relative. Right?
Or is it dan dan dahhhhhh! The world may never now. A one, a two, a three. Three!
Chicka chicka boom Shaka lacka boom shaka laka Boom!
I am dancing and shakin me but Arch! I am having fun! Woot. Come on dance with me. Check this move. Oh ****e! Fell on me arse agin. Should know better at my age.
Screw it I am dancing I don’t care I am gonna have fun.
Chicka chicka bow wow.
Got an awesome Howlin Wolf album the other day by Chess Records! Oh yeah! Love vinyl.
Spoonfull spoonfull spoonfull!
Loves me some blues.
Children y’all play nice and Archie you may be dead on but I don’t trust folks that wear masks. Me I spill me guts here. I don’t pretend nor hide. Sometimes I too make an ass out of myself when I let my flesh get the better of me.
I correct it though and make amends when my spirit gets the upper hand. If not then it is because I have a blind spot.
I am the first one Arch to point out that there are charlatans. I personally don’t buy CG’s story for instance. But I can not prove it one way or another. Sometimes I have been known to put Ca Caw Ca Caw under those posts. My rude flesh that I am charbroiling as we speak.
I am full of character defects but God is working on it. After all I am a work in progress. I know nuttin. Socrates LOLI first discovered this on a post by Rex Bear of Leak Project of whom I love. He does not care what anyone thinks. I love people like that no false pretense. Archie in that regard you rock my brother. And you are my brother. I do not know much about the document/story but find it very interesting. Not the CIA part but the content of the book. You see the same prophesy many places. Scientists are telling us as much to the chagrin of the bleeding heart liberals we are going into a grand solar minimum. If you look further we may be entering the next ice age they postulate. The Theosophists and Buddhists postulate we are at the end of a yuga or age. Society has broken down into the age of iron the last age before the earth is turned over like a farmer tilling a field. And before anyone accuses me of fear porn save it. We are discussing the book which speaks of the very things as I laid out. We do not die. Possibly a second death but that is on the owner of the meat suit. Thanks for the post. Hey Archie what do you think about the contents of the book in light of all that is going on? Care to try out what it feels like to have a regular conversation? Come on bro you have to be in there somewhere. Hugs and my hand is still there. No bull excrement I mean it.! I met some of my best friends in school after we beat each other up lol. Ahh youth so long ago. Ready to trade my meat suit in Archie. How about you? Do you think there is a God? Do you pray? If not do you meditate or have any spirituality? Come on bros. lighten up and introduce yourself. You smoke weed Archie or drink the poison man makes? Or are you a tee totaler a phrase you may not be familiar with if your just a kid. Which for me is 30 and under. Hey it’s all relative. Right? Or is it dan dan dahhhhhh! The world may never now. A one, a two, a three. Three! Chicka chicka boom Shaka lacka boom shaka laka Boom! I am dancing and shakin me but Arch! I am having fun! Woot. Come on dance with me. Check this move. Oh shite! Fell on me arse agin. Should know better at my age. Screw it I am dancing I don’t care I am gonna have fun. Chicka chicka bow wow. Got an awesome Howlin Wolf album the other day by Chess Records! Oh yeah! Love vinyl. Spoonfull spoonfull spoonfull! Loves me some blues. Children y’all play nice and Archie you may be dead on but I don’t trust folks that wear masks. Me I spill me guts here. I don’t pretend nor hide. Sometimes I too make an ass out of myself when I let my flesh get the better of me. I correct it though and make amends when my spirit gets the upper hand. If not then it is because I have a blind spot. I am the first one Arch to point out that there are charlatans. I personally don’t buy CG’s story for instance. But I can not prove it one way or another. Sometimes I have been known to put Ca Caw Ca Caw under those posts. My rude flesh that I am charbroiling as we speak. I am full of character defects but God is working on it. After all I am a work in progress. I know nuttin. Socrates LOL5 Replies- @DeJordan_BunkerYou're a funny guy. Like I said I'm really not here to make friends. I've always preferred to be anonymous going back to when I used to debate on usenet before there was a WWW. Religion? I don't debate religion. Vinyl. Yeah. 60s-70s primarily rock soul funk bluegrass and jazz. Drugs? nah, but beer & wine's fine.
Frankly, I don't care about the Adam & Eve book. Don't know enough about geology and I don't read religious stuff. I just couldn't stand how it was being dishonestly presented by liars. If by exposing the obvious duplicity of Salla and Davidson in this case I can get one person to question their stature as trustworthy "authorities" I'd consider it a good day's work.You're a funny guy. Like I said I'm really not here to make friends. I've always preferred to be anonymous going back to when I used to debate on usenet before there was a WWW. Religion? I don't debate religion. Vinyl. Yeah. 60s-70s primarily rock soul funk bluegrass and jazz. Drugs? nah, but beer & wine's fine. Frankly, I don't care about the Adam & Eve book. Don't know enough about geology and I don't read religious stuff. I just couldn't stand how it was being dishonestly presented by liars. If by exposing the obvious duplicity of Salla and Davidson in this case I can get one person to question their stature as trustworthy "authorities" I'd consider it a good day's work. - @rocketmanJonathan wrote: "Theosophists and Buddhists postulate we are at the end of a yuga." From what I've read we are only a few thousand years into the yuga known as the "Iron Age" that is due to last 50,000 years. The meat suits will be here for the whole ride because the ride was made just for us.Jonathan wrote: "Theosophists and Buddhists postulate we are at the end of a yuga." From what I've read we are only a few thousand years into the yuga known as the "Iron Age" that is due to last 50,000 years. The meat suits will be here for the whole ride because the ride was made just for us.
- @Jonathan_C_Hall@rocketman You may very well be right. I studied eschatology for a long time. The root is all saying the same it is the time lines that get blury between different branches as they diverge from the root. The signs are here for the whole, it is the where on the timeline we are that I can't pinpoint. We are told we will never be able to know. I think that to be true. With the EU being beaten all bets are off. One thing I do know. We are all here to love one another. Of that "I know". Peace my friend. I want to hear more from you please.[rocketman] You may very well be right. I studied eschatology for a long time. The root is all saying the same it is the time lines that get blury between different branches as they diverge from the root. The signs are here for the whole, it is the where on the timeline we are that I can't pinpoint. We are told we will never be able to know. I think that to be true. With the EU being beaten all bets are off. One thing I do know. We are all here to love one another. Of that "I know". Peace my friend. I want to hear more from you please.
- @Jonathan_C_HallYou may be right. I for one think we ride it out. I do not subscribe to the notion of rapture/ascension. Ascension once suit gone yes. But that is as far as I can see. As far as yuga and iron age it is hard to reconcile the times for me. The lines are blurry, but I do know that today the eastern traditions say we are at the end of the Kali Yuga. From what I know of the western teachings we are in the Iron Age.
Please tell me more of your understanding. You have piqued my curiosity about you and what you have to say. Thank you. @rocketmanYou may be right. I for one think we ride it out. I do not subscribe to the notion of rapture/ascension. Ascension once suit gone yes. But that is as far as I can see. As far as yuga and iron age it is hard to reconcile the times for me. The lines are blurry, but I do know that today the eastern traditions say we are at the end of the Kali Yuga. From what I know of the western teachings we are in the Iron Age. Please tell me more of your understanding. You have piqued my curiosity about you and what you have to say. Thank you. [rocketman] - @rocketman@Jonathan_C_Hall The Kali Yuga is the Iron Age which is the most coarse of them all. We went from Gold, Silver, Copper, and now Iron. Soul learns best from adversity, but needed to ease into it so that It would have the strength and wisdom to handle the greatest lessons.[Jonathan_C_Hall] The Kali Yuga is the Iron Age which is the most coarse of them all. We went from Gold, Silver, Copper, and now Iron. Soul learns best from adversity, but needed to ease into it so that It would have the strength and wisdom to handle the greatest lessons.
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- @BuffalospiritAnything sanitized definitely piques my interest … and I will make sure I get several pairs of long johns for when the you-know-what-hits-the-fan … I get cold easily.Anything sanitized definitely piques my interest … and I will make sure I get several pairs of long johns for when the you-know-what-hits-the-fan … I get cold easily. :)
- @DeJordan_BunkerI address this to the author of this article. You wrote, "The book was classified by the CIA a couple years later and pulled out of public circulation." What is the basis for the "pulled out of public circulation" part?I address this to the author of this article. You wrote, "The book was classified by the CIA a couple years later and pulled out of public circulation." What is the basis for the "pulled out of public circulation" part?1 Replies
- @Jonathan_C_HallI was wondering the same. I have heard that from more then one source. I know copies of the book go for big bucks.I was wondering the same. I have heard that from more then one source. I know copies of the book go for big bucks.
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- @SpellheartIf the pole shift is cyclic ...so be it...if not...so be it...3 Letter agencies do. strange things too often....If the pole shift is cyclic ...so be it...if not...so be it...3 Letter agencies do. strange things too often....
- @PJMerkabaGregg Braden has written/spoken about polar shift for years. You are probably familiar with his work. There is evidence such as airline runway navigation changes that prove some kind of shift has happened in our lifetimes. Something on a massive scale would likely be catasprophic. This planet has existed for a long time. So many interesting things have and will happen. The CIA seems to have a file for literally everything under the sun. I'm not skerred, though.Gregg Braden has written/spoken about polar shift for years. You are probably familiar with his work. There is evidence such as airline runway navigation changes that prove some kind of shift has happened in our lifetimes. Something on a massive scale would likely be catasprophic. This planet has existed for a long time. So many interesting things have and will happen. The CIA seems to have a file for literally everything under the sun. I'm not skerred, though.
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- @UPARSSteve added a new articleHoliday Greetings from UPARS LA!Happy Holidays to you and yours. May your New Year be filled with happiness and blessings!17 0 9 0
- @writerguyI wish you all the best for the holidays and New Year Steve. Peace, love and light to you and your loved ones always. Namaste Brother.I wish you all the best for the holidays and New Year Steve. Peace, love and light to you and your loved ones always. Namaste Brother. :pray:1 Replies
- @UPARSSteveThank you, Christopher. To you and yours as well!Thank you, Christopher. To you and yours as well!
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- @UPARSSteve added a new articleThermal Footage of Bigfoot?I can't tell how old this video is, but I found it on YouTube and thought I'd post it for your consideration. Thermal imagery is different from night vision. Less detail, but it's hard to fake a heat signature. Whatever the man filmed, it's all thermal. The entire video is 17 min long. It's not a "family", as is billed on the video.12 0 7 1
- @jdhicks519For what it's worth... They went over this footage in a "Finding Bigfoot" episode, in season 1 (I believe). As usual, Bobo, Matt, and Cliff were convinced it was a bigfoot, while Renee was not. (I know... surprise surprise.)For what it's worth... They went over this footage in a "Finding Bigfoot" episode, in season 1 (I believe). As usual, Bobo, Matt, and Cliff were convinced it was a bigfoot, while Renee was not. (I know... surprise surprise.) :)
- @S.AdamsCheck out Thinkerthunker on youtubeCheck out Thinkerthunker on youtube2 Replies
- @UPARSSteveCheck out Sasquatch Chronicles on YouTube. Almost 500 episodes now, all of which include first hand witness encountersCheck out Sasquatch Chronicles on YouTube. Almost 500 episodes now, all of which include first hand witness encounters
- @S.Adams@UPARSSteve very cool, will do[UPARSSteve] very cool, will do
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- @BuffalospiritIt seems like there may have been more than one hence the speculation that it was a "family." Interesting to see how the being at the beginning seemed to be crouching and creeping close to the ground and later perhaps felt more bold to stand upright. Thanks for sharing!It seems like there may have been more than one hence the speculation that it was a "family." Interesting to see how the being at the beginning seemed to be crouching and creeping close to the ground and later perhaps felt more bold to stand upright. Thanks for sharing!
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- @UPARSSteve added a new articleHarvard Scientists think Weird Comet Could be Alien ProbeTaken from this article in cbc.ca.radio "A long, flat hunk of space rock that has eluded scientists since it zipped past our planet last year may, in fact, be a piece of alien technology, according to a new paper by Harvard scientists. The paper — written by Abraham Loeb, chair of astronomy, and Shmuel Bialy, a postdoctoral fellow,...38 0 11 1
- @S.AdamsAn alien artifact is a good theory for this object, I have heard that it contains a high metal content in its make up which is very interesting as well. The diversion in its expected trajectory is highly intriguing too, and I'm not sure I like the outgasing theory to explain the diversion.An alien artifact is a good theory for this object, I have heard that it contains a high metal content in its make up which is very interesting as well. The diversion in its expected trajectory is highly intriguing too, and I'm not sure I like the outgasing theory to explain the diversion.1 Replies
- @UPARSSteveAs the article points out, outgassing would result in rotation of the object, which is not happening. A conundrum, indeed!As the article points out, outgassing would result in rotation of the object, which is not happening. A conundrum, indeed!
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- @S.AdamsAnd here in the Thunderbolts project take on it from 9 months ago https://youtu.be/Bm6nQahrgXUAnd here in the Thunderbolts project take on it from 9 months ago https://youtu.be/Bm6nQahrgXU
- @StoneyIt's just AMAZING that a Harvard based scholar has anything to do with this kind of thing, lol! I'm a New Englander, and 'stuffy' is the word most often associated with Haahhvahd. I've been reading everything I can on this object. Church had the topic come up on his show the other night, and it just solidified my thinking that it definitely WAS NOT an asteroid. That thing was sent here to check out what is going on in our neighborhood, and I bet we are going to see something else on its heels soon enough.It's just AMAZING that a Harvard based scholar has anything to do with this kind of thing, lol! I'm a New Englander, and 'stuffy' is the word most often associated with Haahhvahd. I've been reading everything I can on this object. Church had the topic come up on his show the other night, and it just solidified my thinking that it definitely WAS NOT an asteroid. That thing was sent here to check out what is going on in our neighborhood, and I bet we are going to see something else on its heels soon enough.3 Replies
- @DisclosureBackpackJimmy's talk about it was mind expanding. I also don't think it is a natural object.Jimmy's talk about it was mind expanding. I also don't think it is a natural object.
- @Happy4campy@DisclosureBackpack I agree. I've been absolutely fascinated by this. And Jimmy's thoughts about the odds of this happening-why it turned where it did, feeds my curiosity.[DisclosureBackpack] I agree. I've been absolutely fascinated by this. And Jimmy's thoughts about the odds of this happening-why it turned where it did, feeds my curiosity.
- @rwgThanks sir, I hope they keep analyzing the Oumuamua data. The secret-space folks are probably already chasing the object. It looks very well disguised, could be a dead 'Romulan' ship or the like... great way to sneak around the cosmos.Thanks sir, I hope they keep analyzing the Oumuamua data. The secret-space folks are probably already chasing the object. It looks very well disguised, could be a dead 'Romulan' ship or the like... great way to sneak around the cosmos.
- @illunaireFunny how they keep bringing that old rock in the news when it could've just floated by in silence.Funny how they keep bringing that old rock in the news when it could've just floated by in silence. ;)
- @qumran69Sow the article on the British Times and on BBC morning talk. Was very surprised and happy at the same time,the Kingdom is opening up or is disclosure really under way on the other side of the Pond?!Sow the article on the British Times and on BBC morning talk. Was very surprised and happy at the same time,the Kingdom is opening up or is disclosure really under way on the other side of the Pond?!
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- @UPARSSteve added a new articleThe Word is Out on TTSAHey there OnStelleroonies, While many of us had high hopes for Tom DeLonge and his "To The Stars Academy", things are not boding well for either. The word of TTSA 's $37M deficit of is beginning to make main stream news. I'm not sure how a public company recovers from this. Here's an article that just appeared in Ars Tecnica. Here's another article that just appeared in SPIN....28 0 25 0
- @illunaireDisappointing and perplexing! Delonge sounded genuinely excited in his interviews on Coast to Coast and Fade to Black. Is it that he approached the wrong people? His Twitter is all about merchandise, not disclosure. "Everything will be revealed", he used to say.Disappointing and perplexing! Delonge sounded genuinely excited in his interviews on Coast to Coast and Fade to Black. Is it that he approached the wrong people? His Twitter is all about merchandise, not disclosure. "Everything will be revealed", he used to say.
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- @kcoats182I pre-apologize for the length: There really isn't anything to be disappointed with yet. We still have no idea what the 37.4 million is really all about. This is a lot of people jumping on the we hate Tom band wagon. And don't get me wrong... Every time he posts on instagram where he actually responds to people. I have asked what the 37.4m is all about. I know he'll never respond. When my stocks go fully live I may just try to sell them at a loss. But these articles are based 100% on the security filings that we already broke down and discussed in Greenwalds post about it. So for us this is nothing new or explanative on the subject. It's the equivalent of Rabble Rousing and working people up for disappointment for no reason. If anything it shows how slow the media is to catch on to us. But then again this entire subject is one we have been ahead of the media on ever since Project Blue Book started controlling the media on this subject. So that's unsurprising. Now.. If you want real concerns... in 2015/16 like many people Tom was in the Hillary camp. Deep in bed with the DNC and John Podesta. He kept instagramming about how Hillary will be the disclossure president. Around these parts we know that was so far from the truth because she is clearly aligned with what we more or less perceive as the "Cabal." Wether you believe in the Cabal and Alliance on a Cory Goode/David Wilcock level or not is neither here nor there. What we have seen is the individuals labeled as being in this "cabal" act exactly in the ways we talk about and they further keep a specific agenda moving forward. Their biggest guilt is trying to tear down the Constitution from within the government. Secret Space Programs and all that aside.. Those are the basic facts. For the outsiders who hear me talk about this stuff. I don't go into the SSP or those details. I simply tell them that there is a widespread belief that a cabal of people are trying to tear down the foundation of the United States greatness. They pick up on that quickly. My point. I noticed very early on that Tom had been aligning himself with these people because of how he treated the entire last election cycle. It's the biggest reason I only bought two blocks of shares as opposed to buying thousands of dollars in shares... I'm curious to see where things go... but some of his associations concern me. The DNC being the biggest one. Because the people he's brought in, barring Elizondo because he is unknown to us. The rest are all known, Hal Puthoff, Peter Levenda, whose books we've owned and discussed long before he and DeLonge partnered up, Colm Kelleher from NIDS/BAAS and wrote a book with George Knapp. Who even in Corbell's Hunt for the Skinwalker is praising TTSA still. He still speaks positively about them like he knows something he's not telling us. Much in the same way he sat on all that stuff for Skinwalker Ranch. Which i think leads to more questions than answers again. In the end though. We know nothing more about that 37.4m than we did with the SEC filings went public, These two media outlets are not helping for or against as much as just making fun of the subject around the company and our subject. I'm pretty sure if they embedded audio in the webpage it would have been the xfiles theme. My point in the end. We as a community knew about this before these media hacks and we have discussed it better than they have. The word isn't out... It's been out. And we brought it out. -KyleI pre-apologize for the length: There really isn't anything to be disappointed with yet. We still have no idea what the 37.4 million is really all about. This is a lot of people jumping on the we hate Tom band wagon. And don't get me wrong... Every time he posts on instagram where he actually responds to people. I have asked what the 37.4m is all about. I know he'll never respond. When my stocks go fully live I may just try to sell them at a loss. But these articles are based 100% on the security filings that we already broke down and discussed in Greenwalds post about it. So for us this is nothing new or explanative on the subject. It's the equivalent of Rabble Rousing and working people up for disappointment for no reason. If anything it shows how slow the media is to catch on to us. But then again this entire subject is one we have been ahead of the media on ever since Project Blue Book started controlling the media on this subject. So that's unsurprising. Now.. If you want real concerns... in 2015/16 like many people Tom was in the Hillary camp. Deep in bed with the DNC and John Podesta. He kept instagramming about how Hillary will be the disclossure president. Around these parts we know that was so far from the truth because she is clearly aligned with what we more or less perceive as the "Cabal." Wether you believe in the Cabal and Alliance on a Cory Goode/David Wilcock level or not is neither here nor there. What we have seen is the individuals labeled as being in this "cabal" act exactly in the ways we talk about and they further keep a specific agenda moving forward. Their biggest guilt is trying to tear down the Constitution from within the government. Secret Space Programs and all that aside.. Those are the basic facts. For the outsiders who hear me talk about this stuff. I don't go into the SSP or those details. I simply tell them that there is a widespread belief that a cabal of people are trying to tear down the foundation of the United States greatness. They pick up on that quickly. My point. I noticed very early on that Tom had been aligning himself with these people because of how he treated the entire last election cycle. It's the biggest reason I only bought two blocks of shares as opposed to buying thousands of dollars in shares... I'm curious to see where things go... but some of his associations concern me. The DNC being the biggest one. Because the people he's brought in, barring Elizondo because he is unknown to us. The rest are all known, Hal Puthoff, Peter Levenda, whose books we've owned and discussed long before he and DeLonge partnered up, Colm Kelleher from NIDS/BAAS and wrote a book with George Knapp. Who even in Corbell's Hunt for the Skinwalker is praising TTSA still. He still speaks positively about them like he knows something he's not telling us. Much in the same way he sat on all that stuff for Skinwalker Ranch. Which i think leads to more questions than answers again. In the end though. We know nothing more about that 37.4m than we did with the SEC filings went public, These two media outlets are not helping for or against as much as just making fun of the subject around the company and our subject. I'm pretty sure if they embedded audio in the webpage it would have been the xfiles theme. My point in the end. We as a community knew about this before these media hacks and we have discussed it better than they have. The word isn't out... It's been out. And we brought it out. -Kyle5 Replies
- @illunaireI just finished listening again to his interview on Fade to Black 515 (August 30, 2016). This was before the 2016 elections, so I didn’t think too much about his alignment with Clinton and Podesta back then. But after everything I’ve learned since regarding the DNC and the Deep State (which DeLonge claims doesn’t exist), you bet I’m seeing this with new eyes. He’s gushing over Hillary being the disclosure president. Well, look at Hillary pushing the fake Russian collusion narrative today. Now imagine her being in charge, and suddenly “discovering” that negative aliens are controlling the world. She would basically have free range to impose any measures she deemed necessary to insure people’s so-called protection.
Year 1: “They can look human, so we’re gonna chip y’all to identify you.”
Year 2: “Y'all have to move in defined spaces so we can keep an eye on you.”
Year 3: “If we let the ETs become our overlords, they will spare us.”
Year 4: “Thank goodness they eat kids. No more overpopulation issues!”
Yes, I’m being cynical, but not as much as the Deep State is.I just finished listening again to his interview on Fade to Black 515 (August 30, 2016). This was before the 2016 elections, so I didn’t think too much about his alignment with Clinton and Podesta back then. But after everything I’ve learned since regarding the DNC and the Deep State (which DeLonge claims doesn’t exist), you bet I’m seeing this with new eyes. He’s gushing over Hillary being the disclosure president. Well, look at Hillary pushing the fake Russian collusion narrative today. Now imagine her being in charge, and suddenly “discovering” that negative aliens are controlling the world. She would basically have free range to impose any measures she deemed necessary to insure people’s so-called protection. Year 1: “They can look human, so we’re gonna chip y’all to identify you.” Year 2: “Y'all have to move in defined spaces so we can keep an eye on you.” Year 3: “If we let the ETs become our overlords, they will spare us.” Year 4: “Thank goodness they eat kids. No more overpopulation issues!” Yes, I’m being cynical, but not as much as the Deep State is. - @UPARSSteve@illunaire Interesting projection of a possible future, had Hillary been elected. Take a listen to Stephen Basset. He is a big time Hillary supporter. He makes a pretty good case that Hillary was to be the "Disclosure President". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4vsOPWM3Ik&t=899s[illunaire] Interesting projection of a possible future, had Hillary been elected. Take a listen to Stephen Basset. He is a big time Hillary supporter. He makes a pretty good case that Hillary was to be the "Disclosure President". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4vsOPWM3Ik&t=899s
- @kcoats182@UPARSSteve I actually never saw that Clinton video from 2004. I like Basset.. However the biggest reason I don't see it is because the Bilderberg Meetings attendees over the years and their connection with the New World Order. I may have read more Jim Marrs than one should... But something about those associations don't sit well with me. :-/[UPARSSteve] I actually never saw that Clinton video from 2004. I like Basset.. However the biggest reason I don't see it is because the Bilderberg Meetings attendees over the years and their connection with the New World Order. I may have read more Jim Marrs than one should... But something about those associations don't sit well with me. :-/
- @illunaire@UPARSSteve Yes, but no one in the White House really has access to any of this stuff, right? So there's not such thing as a disclosure president to begin with. Ask JFK.[UPARSSteve] Yes, but no one in the White House really has access to any of this stuff, right? So there's not such thing as a disclosure president to begin with. Ask JFK.
- @kcoats182@UPARSSteve Steve. Also thinking about it over time, while I agree with Bassett on most subjects, this is one that he and I will agree to disagree til both of us are proven wrong. I just don't see the democrats doing it. Respectively speaking if there is a controlling party over the subject. They seem to have control over the Democratic Party. I think a lot of the community sees this and may be part of why they support Trump so much as of recent. While I don't think he will be the "disclosure president" myself, I do see the patterns. One pattern over the last 40 years is that more has come to light about the subject under republican presidents and more has been done to cover it up under Democrats while they claim to let more slip out. Carter I think was the closest we've had to a democrat being open about it. Meanwhile, looking through history, Eisenhower warned of the MIC which is closely tied to the subject, Reagan's sitings plus his overall rhetoric to the subject. The DoD "Something" from December 2017 under Trump.. All the closest times we've gotten to it have been under Republicans using every word they could besides UFO, Alien or even just staying silent on it. Like Trump. I call shots as see them. :-P. But I feel as though democrats only openly acknowledge it these days for votes and keeping their power. Much like they grant welfare then gentrify the area they promised welfare instead of actually giving the welfare. Like it is just a ploy for a check mark on a scantron sheet. It may seem cold and callous but it's what I personally have seen over the years.[UPARSSteve] Steve. Also thinking about it over time, while I agree with Bassett on most subjects, this is one that he and I will agree to disagree til both of us are proven wrong. I just don't see the democrats doing it. Respectively speaking if there is a controlling party over the subject. They seem to have control over the Democratic Party. I think a lot of the community sees this and may be part of why they support Trump so much as of recent. While I don't think he will be the "disclosure president" myself, I do see the patterns. One pattern over the last 40 years is that more has come to light about the subject under republican presidents and more has been done to cover it up under Democrats while they claim to let more slip out. Carter I think was the closest we've had to a democrat being open about it. Meanwhile, looking through history, Eisenhower warned of the MIC which is closely tied to the subject, Reagan's sitings plus his overall rhetoric to the subject. The DoD "Something" from December 2017 under Trump.. All the closest times we've gotten to it have been under Republicans using every word they could besides UFO, Alien or even just staying silent on it. Like Trump. I call shots as see them. :-P. But I feel as though democrats only openly acknowledge it these days for votes and keeping their power. Much like they grant welfare then gentrify the area they promised welfare instead of actually giving the welfare. Like it is just a ploy for a check mark on a scantron sheet. It may seem cold and callous but it's what I personally have seen over the years.
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- @CJCAgreed sir. Sitting in my backyard at 5:30am enjoying my post push-ups coffee and I watched another "something" leave the atmosphere. I see this more than any other phenomenon, including satellites and meteors. Scott is right, "disclosure " is an accelerating organic process and big "D" disclosure dropped from official sources is a flawed goal inherently. I love how we all talk about how the guhbment lies about everything and turn around and opine for the same sources to validate our point of view. TTSAs and Bigelows provide another buzz around things and then we eventually have to go back our experiences witnessing first hand these phenomena...and how soon the thrill of experiencing something unexplained takes a back seat to good old grade school validation yearning. I will miss the meeting tonight, it's my boy's birthday!!! Have fun and hope to catch up soon.Agreed sir. Sitting in my backyard at 5:30am enjoying my post push-ups coffee and I watched another "something" leave the atmosphere. I see this more than any other phenomenon, including satellites and meteors. Scott is right, "disclosure " is an accelerating organic process and big "D" disclosure dropped from official sources is a flawed goal inherently. I love how we all talk about how the guhbment lies about everything and turn around and opine for the same sources to validate our point of view. TTSAs and Bigelows provide another buzz around things and then we eventually have to go back our experiences witnessing first hand these phenomena...and how soon the thrill of experiencing something unexplained takes a back seat to good old grade school validation yearning. I will miss the meeting tonight, it's my boy's birthday!!! Have fun and hope to catch up soon.
- @PablOhioPublic opinion does not change overnight, trending beliefs take time to "trickle down" to a mass population. Those that "model" public opinion/belief systems know how it is done. Studied this in college with a course called Mass Media & Mass Man, where it was shown how drugs like MJ and Cocaine were used as samples of how they grew to prominence, over time, and it always starts with the top 5% of the economic base accepting the "fad/opinion/drug/war/etc" and over time this trickles down to the mass population. The opioid debacle is the most recent trickle down scourge to infect the mass man, but it also works the other way, such as with smoking cigarettes, down from where it was popular compared to the 50's when everyone smoked. This will also have to occur with changing the attitude about "alien life" disclosure, which has begun with a few elites following the call of disclosure, and it is SLOWLY spreading or trickling down to the masses. Even with a public mass exposure (like in Phoenix years ago) will not immediately change opinion. It would have to be world wide to change long held opinions, like "they" (the modelers of public opinion) did with the shock and awe of 911, even though most of us saw it differently than it was presented, it was able to quickly start a war with too many who succumbed to join the "fight".... The so called evidence presented by TTSA was weak, and seemed to be more of a "rich man's" anti disclosure movement to me.Public opinion does not change overnight, trending beliefs take time to "trickle down" to a mass population. Those that "model" public opinion/belief systems know how it is done. Studied this in college with a course called Mass Media & Mass Man, where it was shown how drugs like MJ and Cocaine were used as samples of how they grew to prominence, over time, and it always starts with the top 5% of the economic base accepting the "fad/opinion/drug/war/etc" and over time this trickles down to the mass population. The opioid debacle is the most recent trickle down scourge to infect the mass man, but it also works the other way, such as with smoking cigarettes, down from where it was popular compared to the 50's when everyone smoked. This will also have to occur with changing the attitude about "alien life" disclosure, which has begun with a few elites following the call of disclosure, and it is SLOWLY spreading or trickling down to the masses. Even with a public mass exposure (like in Phoenix years ago) will not immediately change opinion. It would have to be world wide to change long held opinions, like "they" (the modelers of public opinion) did with the shock and awe of 911, even though most of us saw it differently than it was presented, it was able to quickly start a war with too many who succumbed to join the "fight".... The so called evidence presented by TTSA was weak, and seemed to be more of a "rich man's" anti disclosure movement to me.
- @Hiddentruths2018Steve, those have been my thoughts from the get-go. The powers in charge will never give disclosure. It would have to be forced onto the planet by some event.Steve, those have been my thoughts from the get-go. The powers in charge will never give disclosure. It would have to be forced onto the planet by some event.
- @StringGeneTom DeLonge tried to fake his way into the "movement" and was never a part of it. Then he is contacting Podesta and Hillary... enough warning right there.Tom DeLonge tried to fake his way into the "movement" and was never a part of it. Then he is contacting Podesta and Hillary... enough warning right there.2 Replies
- @kcoats182If you really knew his personal history.. You wouldn't say that. I can provide proof that he has been passionate about the subject for 2.5+ decades. What I cannot figure out is his angle now....If you really knew his personal history.. You wouldn't say that. I can provide proof that he has been passionate about the subject for 2.5+ decades. What I cannot figure out is his angle now....
- @StringGene@kcoats182 He has purposely avoided those established in the movement, the conferences, and it has them puzzled as well. Point is he has no "sources". I have studied the UFO subject for much longer than him, but that doesn't make me a "source". But anyone who can't see what Podesta and Hillary are is ****n blind:)[kcoats182] He has purposely avoided those established in the movement, the conferences, and it has them puzzled as well. Point is he has no "sources". I have studied the UFO subject for much longer than him, but that doesn't make me a "source". But anyone who can't see what Podesta and Hillary are is fuckn blind:)
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- @illunaireOh, and another thing, since this TTSA debacle is annoying me. Last year, the insider MegaAnon wrote this on 4chan’s /pol/:
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Anonymous ID:NPh2JHei Fri 28 Jul 2017 16:59:45 No.135320393
My next big news?! I posted last Saturday, but I'll say it again. @KibBitzLaw (VotL) is Tom DeLonge and team!!! NOT SWORDFISH. Keep your eyes peeled, ladies!!! Big week next week!!
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(Note that the VotL account at twitter.com/KibBitzLaw sounds nothing like that Pleiadian guy Cobra. Also, I don’t know what Swordfish refers to in her post.)
Victory of the Light is the complete antithesis of DeLonge in his interviews about TTSA. We’re talking day and night here. VotL is ALL about conspiracies, the Deep State and the secret space program—ideas which DeLonge publicly disavowed. So either MegaAnon got wrong intel, or DeLonge and his team are playing some kind of weird long game I don’t understand.Oh, and another thing, since this TTSA debacle is annoying me. Last year, the insider MegaAnon wrote this on 4chan’s /pol/: ------------ Anonymous ID:NPh2JHei Fri 28 Jul 2017 16:59:45 No.135320393 My next big news?! I posted last Saturday, but I'll say it again. @KibBitzLaw (VotL) is Tom DeLonge and team!!! NOT SWORDFISH. Keep your eyes peeled, ladies!!! Big week next week!! ------------ (Note that the VotL account at twitter.com/KibBitzLaw sounds nothing like that Pleiadian guy Cobra. Also, I don’t know what Swordfish refers to in her post.) Victory of the Light is the complete antithesis of DeLonge in his interviews about TTSA. We’re talking day and night here. VotL is ALL about conspiracies, the Deep State and the secret space program—ideas which DeLonge publicly disavowed. So either MegaAnon got wrong intel, or DeLonge and his team are playing some kind of weird long game I don’t understand. - @KhufuHow does one rack up 37M in losses when you don't make anything and they are not providing services to anyone. And only did a few videos. If they have more then 10 people on the payroll, that would be too many. What did they spend it on? This should be pretty simple for them to answer. If they can't or will not answer, that would say a lot.How does one rack up 37M in losses when you don't make anything and they are not providing services to anyone. And only did a few videos. If they have more then 10 people on the payroll, that would be too many. What did they spend it on? This should be pretty simple for them to answer. If they can't or will not answer, that would say a lot.1 Replies
- @illunaireTheir big plan is to create a franchise like Marvel or Star Wars, meaning books, documentaries and big budget movies ("big budget" being the operative words). Except it took Star Wars and Marvel literally DECADES to achieve their status.Their big plan is to create a franchise like Marvel or Star Wars, meaning books, documentaries and big budget movies ("big budget" being the operative words). Except it took Star Wars and Marvel literally DECADES to achieve their status.
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- @AlisonBellWhoa, dude. Too true. You, me, and everybody else probably agree. And it's sad too, but don't forget all of us who know. Disclosure happens with us. We gotta " Just keep rolling that rock up hill. " as somebody said...Whoa, dude. Too true. You, me, and everybody else probably agree. And it's sad too, but don't forget all of us who know. Disclosure happens with us. We gotta " Just keep rolling that rock up hill. " as somebody said... *_*
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- @UFOtweetsHappy Birthday Jimmy, SERIOUSLY! Thanks for sharing all the knowledge with us and entertaining us each dayHappy Birthday Jimmy, SERIOUSLY! Thanks for sharing all the knowledge with us and entertaining us each day :alien: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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- @UPARSSteve added a new articleChris O'Brien's UFO Tracking Project is Underway!By: Helen Smith - Updated: 1 day ago in the Alamosa News ALAMOSA — Capturing unexplained aerial anomalies is the mission of Christopher O’Brien As a resident of the San Luis Valley from 1989 to 2002, O’Brien was the self-designated investigator of unusual events. He has written three books on his studies including one called “The Mysterious Valley.” After...15 0 2 2
- @S.AdamsKeep us updated on the data he collects with his system. Sounds fascinating. Thanks for sharingKeep us updated on the data he collects with his system. Sounds fascinating. Thanks for sharing1 Replies
- @UPARSSteveWill do!Will do!
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Maybe Angels
Sheryl Crow
Six lane highway running up to my back door
But it won't take me where I want to be
I took the I 95 down to Pensacola
All I found was a bunch of holyrollers
They don't know nothing 'bout saving me
I swear they're out there
I swear I swear they're out there
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I swear Maybe Angels Maybe Angels
Down here I feel like a citizen of nowhere
My bag's all packed in case they ever come for me
Got a hundred stories and tabloid lies
Got witnesses to what the government denies
So I'm headed down to Roswell to wait and see
I swear they're out there
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I swear Maybe Angels Maybe Angels
Oh what a mystery
Oh I believe, I believe, I could leave
My sister, she says she knows Elvis
She know Jesus, John Lennon and Cobain personally
Well, I'm too wise to believe my eyes
'Cause all I've seen just terrifies me
But I believe they're coming back for me
I swear they're out there
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I swear Maybe Angels Maybe Angels
Songwriters: Sheryl Crow / Bill Bottrell
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